Why do people say communism doesn't work?
there's thousands of american communes that have been running fine for decades. All run on socialist ideals. How you feel about that?
Sunburst, The Farm, Twin Oaks
- JimLv 7hace 1 mes
Communism is based on the belief that given the same environment people will all desire the same things. This basic foundation is untrue. People have a psychological element that is not uniform even under the same environment conditions. The variety of motivation in siblings is proof of this mistaken belief in human nature.
- AmarettaLv 7hace 1 mes
- hace 1 mes
Communism goes against basic human nature and has led to tyranny and mass graves and mass suffering on a grand scale just ask yourself why no one from the capitalist west want to go to Venezuelar or NK for example or any communist country for that matter or why East Germany had to erect a wall to prevent it's own citizens from escaping to the west that should tell you all you need to know about what a so called communist utopian society is really like.
- hace 1 mes
Socialism runs well on small communities with common goals and ideals. Emphasis on SMALL. You don't even need to look at socialist communes. Just look at the typical nuclear family. One or two parents do most of the work, the kids have their roles, and all income is distributed to fulfill each members needs. Socialism success!
However, it has been proven historically that socialism/communism scales up terribly, and when implemented at the national level, always results in complete collapse or brutal authoritarian rule. It's just unsustainable at the macro level.
As for those "communes" that supposedly run "fine" on socialist ideals for decades, you'll be hard pressed to find parallels of them in underdeveloped economies around the world. The reason is simple. These communes depend on the great capitalist economy of their surroundings to survive. They make their "natural" products and farm their "organic" produce and export it out of their community to obtain glorious capitalist dollars. If they run low of food, encounter drought, or need stuff they can't produce, they send expeditionary trips to the Walmart in the nearest town to buy capitalist produced oats, water, tools, etc.
The great thing about a capitalist free-market society is that anyone can participate in it, and what they do with their profit is their business. Some people choose to use it to participate in more "capitalisty" stuff. Some people choose to use it to role play "socialism" in their little communes. Either way, it's all thanks to capitalism.
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- AnnLv 6hace 1 mes
This will stun you so I hope you're sitting down...Because it doesn't. I know, right?!
- nineteenthlyLv 7hace 1 mes
People have an ingrained idea, probably from Christianity, that human nature is essentially selfish and greedy. They also, rightly in this case, don't trust governments. I am more or less communist of course. Also, the richest parts of the economy kind of pay the media and the education system to churn out pro-capitalist propaganda 24/7, a process which Chomsky called "manufacturing consent".
- Warren TLv 7hace 1 mes
IN THE 19TH CENTURY IN THE UNITED STATES THERE WERE COMMUNES SETUP WHERE THOSE WHO JOINED TURNED OVER ALL THEIR POSSESSIONS TO THE COMMUNE AND EVERYTHING WAS SHARED EQUALLY. THE LAZY QUICKLY REALIZED THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING AND THE HARD WORKING REALIZED THAT NO MATTER HOW HARD THEY WORKED THEY WERE NEVER GOING TO GET AHEAD. FINALLY THE HARD WORKING LEFT THE COMMUNES LEAVING ONLY THE LAZY BEHIND AND OF COURSE AFTER THAT NOTHING GOT DONE. NONE OF THOSE COMMUNES LASTED MORE THAN 10 YEARS.
- thomas fLv 7hace 1 mes
The fundamental problem with socialism/communism is that people are selfish. There is no way around that. (I'm sure that you support socialism because you think you will get a better deal out of it.) One of the most destructive forces in nature is fire. But if fire is properly controlled, it can generate great good and great benefit to mankind. Selfishness is like that. Selfishness, when channeled into productive pursuits, encourages people to be productive and prosperous, and put out extra effort. Free market capitalism unleashes selfishness in a very productive way, leading to widespread prosperity. Socialism, on the other hand, saps the energy and drive out of people. Who really wants to work their butt off just so the lazy guy next door can have as nice a life as you have? There was a saying in communism, "The people pretend to work, and the government pretends to pay us." The result is that not much ever gets done, and everything spirals down into mass poverty. Except for the few high government elite who control everything, who live in luxury.
Socialism is for losers who need the government to take care of them.
- hace 1 mes
social ideas do work. Mix economy is part capitalism and socialism. It works almost all first world countries.
- marsel_duchampLv 7hace 1 mes
Small voluntary groups can make it work for them. Imposed on a national level it is doomed to fail.